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I was with you until you started talking about violence in the western world being caused by non halal/kashrut… So it’s obvious there’s no agression/ violence in the middle east eh?

That doesn’t justify the pain and fear the animal is is going through during its slaughter AT ALL. In common slaughterhouses the animal is STUNNED (rendered unconcious and braindead INSTANTLY) and then its throat is cut. Just because wombatstew1 mentioned that after the stunning, the animals throat is cut doesn’t mean that common slaughterhouses are embracing the halal/kosher methods…

Thanks for your contributions to this positive enlightenment campaign.

And, btw, it’s not Antagonizing Science, it’s what Sane Science leans Against.

Peace

Oooo, Ooooo!!! I call BULLSHIT!

1) If you had a BSc in Molecular Biology, you’d know how Cortisol, and other stress hormones, work.

2) Physicians, for the most part, understand that theirs is not a purely scientific profession. It’s art + science. Doctors are not scientists. Period.

3) No self-respecting scientist would belong to a group that is ‘against science.’

4) You are a supercilious boob who bolsters his fatuous arguments with mythology and meaningless rhetoric.

5) Stop lying.

For a guy who likes to spout off, you don’t know much about youtube, do you?

I CANNOT give you links to academic papers published on line, because you CANNOT post comments containing such links on youtube. Duh…

You’ll just have to get off your religious ass and look this stuff up for yourself. You’ll find that the vast majority of evidence points to there being MUCH more suffering in kosher/halal slaughtering than in humane slaughterhouses. Go ahead, stop being so lazy. Look it up!

Do You?

1. Stunning FIRST, then after ??? lag in time, slaughtering, prevents the drainage of entire blood resulting in it being retained in the animal and retained blood causes germs and bacteria, stress, etc.

2. it causes unnecessary pain and suffering, it is in reality done not for animal rights purposes, but in order for the industry to kill more animals quicker so as to increase profits.

They are far from the same!

Are you for real? You really don’t know anything, do you? Time for a few facts: (read carefully)

1) Kosher/halal methods bleed the animal to death by severing major blood vessels in the neck.
2) Humane slaughter bleeds the animal to death by severing major blood vessels in the neck.

Get it??

BOTH methods kill by exsanguination. The DIFFERENCE is that in HUMANE slaughterhouses, the animals are kept stress free, and when they are to be killed, they are first stunned, so they don’t feel pain.

Read what? Where? You have provided NOTHING, credible or otherwise for me to read.

Correct, we have some rights to eat what we want, but it is a matter of simple respect that we don’t force the animals that die for our diets to die in terror and pain, as kosher and halal slaughter does. 2000 years ago, perhaps kosher was more humane than the other option, but with modern technology and understanding of animal behaviour, we can afford these animals a stress-free, pain-free death. For us, that means guilt-free. Enjoy your pork chop, knowing it came from a humane facility.

It appears U’r in denial. U yourself described how modern slaughter houses have embraced the ‘pain-less quick slaughter’ technique albeit with additional stunning, as against the head bashing and other painful methods, yet you stubbornly refuse to thank Religion for this. Please provide evidence that slaughter without stunning loads the animal with stress…that the adrenals secrete so fast and that the secretion does not almost completely flow out with the rushing blood…and that urs is better

You’re funny! You actually think that modern slaughter houses have ‘embraced’ kosher methods?! Again, you have NO IDEA what happens in a modern slaughterhouse. Suffice it to say that in civilised societies, allowing the cruel barbarism that is kosher/halal is fast becoming unacceptable. This is why there is an ever-growing list of countries that legislate against such cruel ritual torture of animals. You need to see the Temple Grandin videos to become educated. ALL our facilities are her design.

What you have described above appears to be a modified Kosher/Halal technique and appears ok. We thank God that at last many modern slaughter houses have finally embraced Kosher-pain-less slaughter techniques. That said, I don’t think this Kosher technique u described is more common, since most non-kosher/Halal beef we see in the market looks fully bloody. So if most do it this way, then maybe the stunning addition is defeating the purpose, and you remain a vampire.